Cummins To Pay Record Setting $1.675 Billion To EPA!

[CrazyTrain]

I wouldn’t send anything in.

Just send it to the shredder.

How would they know you even received anything in the mail?


2016 Ram Laramie 3500, G56, 6.7, CC, 4x4

That would be my response as well.

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[BubbaJo]

After reading all of this, I may stick with my 2012 rig a bit longer.

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[That12ValveGuy]

My only question is how the recall would look when trying to get the truck registered.

Luckily, Texas is doing away with the annual inspection, so hopefully, not doing the recall shouldn't cause too much of an issue.

I don't plan on selling my truck anytime soon; I dumped way too much into it to start over with a new one.

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[myfirstCTD]

Before you go in for an engine ECU software update (includes trans if auto), you need to offload your tune.

Go back to stock, then reload when it's done.

They can see the footprint if the software is updated. (not what type, just how many updates)

I can read that info on my AlfaOBD tool (footprint)

Thanks for the reply.

I am still confused about what that means simply because I am thick-headed.

Let's say a fellow with an MM3 Tune has his tune erased by this recall.

Will the ECM be locked out now, or can the fellow retune using MM3 after the recall?

Thanks again!

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[toyota_mdt_tech]

Thanks for the reply.

I am still confused about what that means simply because I am thick-headed.

Let's say a fellow with an MM3 Tune has his tune erased by this recall.

Will the ECM be locked out now, or can the fellow retune using MM3 after the recall?

Thanks again!

The way programmers are, one ECU per programmer; otherwise, a guy buys one, tunes all his buddies, and MM3 goes bankrupt.

So they are VIN-locked.

The OE tune also has an ID number.

If said fellow was to get his engine ECU flashed without offloading his tune, his tune would be erased and gone, so now his tuner is garbage.

So offload the tune, return the vehicle to total stock, and tune it entirely.

Dealer does update; you get it home, upload it, and tune back in.

We dont do uploads without permission from customers (I am not a Mopar dealer tech, but this all works the same way).

Recall or not.

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[myfirstCTD]

The way programmers are, one ECU per programmer; otherwise, a guy buys one, tunes all his buddies, and MM3 goes bankrupt.

So they are VIN-locked.

The OE tune also has an ID number.

If said fellow was to get his engine ECU flashed without offloading his tune, his tune would be erased and gone, so now his tuner is garbage.

So offload the tune, return the vehicle to total stock, and tune it entirely.

Dealer does update; you get it home, upload it, and tune back in.

We dont do uploads without permission from customers (I am not a Mopar dealer tech, but this all works the same way).

Recall or not.

Thank you for the explanation.

Appreciate it!

I can say, however, that not all Mopar dealer techs are as courteous.

This same fellow took his truck to the dealer under an extended warranty for a bad thermostat and temp sensor without unloading his tunes.

When he got it back from the dealer, they flashed his ECM without permission.

He was able to retune it, though.

Does that sound right?

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[AK Bob]

I just came across this video about the Cummins fine.

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[Mortifera]

I saw this video on YouTube and posted the link for reference.

Let me save you 9 minutes of your life you won't get back.

He fills his DEF from completely empty before and after the recall with 1 box of DEF.

The DEF gauge now reads lower, and he speculated as to why that could be.

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[Hard Drive]

I hate the EPA and their leftist crap!

SUCK THIS JOE BIDEN!

Martin

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[AK Bob]

I saw this video on YouTube and posted the link for reference.

Let me save you 9 minutes of your life you won't get back.

He fills his DEF from completely empty before and after the recall with 1 box of DEF.

The DEF gauge now reads lower, and he speculated as to why that could be.

Thanks for providing the synopsis of the video.

I found the comments for this video on YouTube interesting and entertaining.

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