Truck totally lost its configuration. Unable to communicate via OBD

[monkeh]

Well, I'm getting a but stuck.

I have a transmission issue (this will be another story).

Transmission shop said it could be wiring before they would agree to warranty a repair.
During my check the truck ran fine, albeit stuck in 3rd gear, overdrive. Few codes -Irrelevant to this post BUT.

During the fault checking, the batteries ran low. Needles swept and naturally not enough juice to start. Batteries off, charged them up.

At some point, the 4WD, ABS, Airbag and engine light came on and first of odd faults were that the interior lights wouldnt come on. The horn would chirp when I used to lock it, but now it wouldnt.

Thought it may be still be an issue and the truck went to the autoelectricians to check the wiring from ECM to trans.

They scanned it while they worked on it and said it had completely lost configuration with an absolute boat load of codes. Yet on a smarty I only got the OD and lockup code.

Get the truck back from successful wiring check (not wiring) and I scanned it, Correct... AlfaOBD and Appcar both detect it as a Fiat 500!

Appcar had one code that I cannot get back (lost communication with TIPM flashed up for 3 seconds then went). Appcar cannot connect anymore.

AlfaOBD can connect, read "some" codes but I cannot configure anything to try and restore it... Fogs don't work, Cruise doesn't work, Idle up, to name some of the configs.

Long and short, HELP!
What is corrupted?

Batteries are good, Wiring load tested, Grounds good.

Connections on various connectors were all checked and clean. The only green crusty was the +12v on the tipm.

Transmission issue has been potentially diagnosed as solenoid packs/wiring in transmission.

Codes were p0973 and p2769. Unable to open the pan as its "warranty" with a 180 mile trip to shop.

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[monkeh]

Here is a list of the codes:

TIPM scan

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Reading faults for: Central Gateway Module
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Faults reported:

20/03/2021 18:50:51
Faults found.
B1648
B1644
P1274
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Reading faults for: Central Gateway Module
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Faults reported:

21/03/2021 01:34:54
Faults found.
B1648
B1644
P1274
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Error code: B1648
Rear Right Turn Lamp Control Circuit High
Test complete or not applicable
Error temporary
Error warning lamp not requested

Error code: B1648
Rear Right Turn Lamp Control Circuit High
Test complete or not applicable
Error temporary
Error warning lamp not requested

Error code: B1644
Rear Left Turn Control Circuit High
Test complete or not applicable
Error temporary
Error warning lamp not requested

Error code: B1648
Rear Right Turn Lamp Control Circuit High
Test complete or not applicable
Error temporary
Error warning lamp not requested

Error code: B1648
Rear Right Turn Lamp Control Circuit High
Test complete or not applicable
Error temporary
Error warning lamp not requested

Error code: B1644
Rear Left Turn Control Circuit High
Test complete or not applicable
Error temporary
Error warning lamp not requested

Error code: B1644
Rear Left Turn Control Circuit High
Test complete or not applicable
Error temporary
Error warning lamp not requested

Error code: P1274
A/C Control Circuit 2 Open
Test complete or not applicable
Error present
Error warning lamp not requested

18:39:18.485: Faults found:
U110A, U0114, U0FF4, U0FF3, U0FF2, U0FF1, U0FF0, U0196

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Reading faults for: Central Gateway Module
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Faults reported:

19/06/2024 18:56:17
Faults found.
U110A
U0114
U0FF4
U0FF3
U0FF2
U0FF1
U0FF0
U0196
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___________________________
Reading faults for: Central Gateway Module
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Faults reported:

19/06/2024 18:58:35
Faults found.
U110A
U0114
U0FF4
U0FF3
U0FF2
U0FF1
U0FF0
U0196
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___________________________
Reading faults for: Central Gateway Module
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Faults reported:

20/06/2024 13:46:22
Faults found.
U110A
U0114
U0FF4
U0FF3
U0FF2
U0FF1
U0FF0
U0196
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Error code: U110A
Lost Communication With SCM
Test complete or not applicable
Error present
Error warning lamp not requested

Error code: U0114
Lost Communication With Final Drive Control Module
Test complete or not applicable
Error present
Error warning lamp not requested

Error code: U0FF4
No code description found
Test complete or not applicable
Error present
Error warning lamp not requested

Error code: U0114
Lost Communication With Final Drive Control Module
Test complete or not applicable
Error present
Error warning lamp not requested

Error code: U0FF4
No code description found
Test complete or not applicable
Error present
Error warning lamp not requested

Error code: U0FF3
No code description found
Test complete or not applicable
Error present
Error warning lamp not requested

Error code: U0FF2
No code description found
Test complete or not applicable
Error present
Error warning lamp not requested

Error code: U0FF1
No code description found
Test complete or not applicable
Error present
Error warning lamp not requested

Error code: U0FF0
No code description found
Test complete or not applicable
Error present
Error warning lamp not requested

Error code: U0196
Lost Communication With Vehicle Entertainment Control Module - First Row
Test complete or not applicable
Error present
Error warning lamp not requested


CCN module

Car configuration change: Vehicle Config 2: Reverse Chime: ' SET ' -> '1 '
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Reading faults for: Instrument Cluster/Cabin Compartment Node
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Faults reported:

19/06/2024 18:57:04
Faults found.
B1629
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Tested device: Instrument Cluster/Cabin Compartment Node
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19/06/2024 18:57:08
VIN - Original: ??7KS28C46J122057
VIN - Original: ??7KS28C46J122057
VIN - Current: 1D7KS28C46J122057
ECU Code Software Identification:
ECU Origin: DCS
Supplier: Blaupunkt
Variant ID: 128
Diagnostic Version: 5
Hardware version: FF00
Software version: 011631
ECU Boot Software Identification:
ECU Origin: DCS
Supplier: Blaupunkt
Variant ID: 128
Diagnostic Version: 5
Hardware version: FF02
Software version: 000030
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ECU Configuration:


ABS module

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Reading faults for: ABS TRW
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Faults reported:

19/06/2024 19:00:10
Faults found.
C2206
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Error code: C2206
Vehicle Configuration Mismatch
Test complete or not applicable
Error present
Error warning lamp 'ON' requested

Error code: C2206
Vehicle Configuration Mismatch
Test complete or not applicable
Error present
Error warning lamp 'ON' requested

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Reading faults for: ABS TRW
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Faults reported:

20/06/2024 13:43:42
Faults found.
C2206
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ECM


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Reading faults for: Diesel Cummins I6
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Faults reported:

13/01/2023 14:58:18
Faults found.
P0633
P0513
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Error code: P0513
Invalid SKIM Key
Test complete or not applicable
Error temporary
Error warning lamp not requested

Error code: P0633
SKIM Secret Key Not Stored in PCM
Test complete or not applicable
Error present
Error warning lamp not requested

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Reading faults for: Diesel Cummins I6
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Faults reported:

08/04/2024 13:54:27
No faults reported by the unit.
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Tested device: Diesel Cummins I6
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08/04/2024 13:54:31
VIN - Original: 1D7KS28C46J122057
VIN - Original: 1D7KS28C46J122057
VIN - Current: 1D7KS28C46J122057
ECU Code Software Identification:
ECU Origin: DCS
Supplier: Blaupunkt
Variant ID: 12
Diagnostic Version: 5
Hardware version: FF35
Software version: 260233
ECU Boot Software Identification:
ECU Origin: DCS
Supplier: Blaupunkt
Variant ID: 12
Diagnostic Version: 5
Hardware version: FF01
Software version: 035230
ECU Configuration:
Cruise control: Present
Air Conditioner: Present
Exhaust / Engine Brake: Not present
SKIM: Present
PTO and Idle up: Present
Automatic transmission: Present
Manual Transmission: Not present
Vehicle type: CC
5.9 L Engine: No
Fan Config: Present
Mobile PTO: Not present
Accelerator Interlock: Not present
Switched Max Operating Speed: Not present
Remote Throttle: Not present
Idle Shutdown: Not present
Ambulance Package Enhanced EVR: ______________________
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Reading faults for: Diesel Cummins I6
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Faults reported:

19/06/2024 18:36:57
Faults found.
P0973
P2769
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___________________________
Reading present faults for: Diesel Cummins I6
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Present faults reported:

19/06/2024 18:37:13
Present faults found.
P0973
P2769
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Reading faults requesting MIL 'On' for: Diesel Cummins I6
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Faults requesting MIL 'On' reported:

19/06/2024 18:37:15
Faults requesting MIL 'ON' found.
P0973
P2769
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Tested device: Diesel Cummins I6
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19/06/2024 18:37:21
VIN - Original: 1D7KS28C46J122057
VIN - Original: 1D7KS28C46J122057
VIN - Current: 1D7KS28C46J122057
ECU Code Software Identification:
ECU Origin: DCS
Supplier: Blaupunkt
Variant ID: 12
Diagnostic Version: 5
Hardware version: FF35
Software version: 260233
ECU Boot Software Identification:
ECU Origin: DCS
Supplier: Blaupunkt
Variant ID: 12
Diagnostic Version: 5
Hardware version: FF01
Software version: 035230
ECU Configuration:
Cruise control: Not present
Air Conditioner: Present
Exhaust / Engine Brake: Not present
SKIM: Present
PTO and Idle up: Not present
Automatic transmission: Present
Manual Transmission: Not present
Vehicle type: CC
5.9 L Engine: No
Fan Config: Present
Mobile PTO: Not present
Accelerator Interlock: Not present
Switched Max Operating Speed: Not present
Remote Throttle: Not present
Idle Shutdown: Not present
Ambulance Package Enhanced EVR: ______________________
Model Year: 2098
Vehicle Line: Not Programmed
Body Style: SNA
Country Code: Undefined
ECU Configuration:
Cruise control: Not present
Air Conditioner: Present
Exhaust / Engine Brake: Not present
SKIM: Present
PTO and Idle up: Not present
Automatic transmission: Present
Manual Transmission: Not present
Vehicle type: CC
5.9 L Engine: No
Fan Config: Present
Mobile PTO: Not present
Accelerator Interlock: Not present
Switched Max Operating Speed: Not present
Remote Throttle: Not present
Idle Shutdown: Not present
Ambulance Package Enhanced EVR: 48RE Actual Gear: 3
48RE Trans Pressure State: Not defined
Intake Air Heater Control Status: Not defined
Trip Information:
Total Fuel Used: 6682.87 gallons
Trip Fuel Used: 6682.87 gallons
Total Time: 2233.37 h
Trip Time: 2233.37 h
Total Idle Fuel: 1085.21 gallons
Trip Idle Fuel: 1085.21 gallons
Total Idle Time: 1023.97 h
Trip Idle Time: 1023.97 h
Total Distance: 90527.00 miles
Trip Distance: 0.00 miles
Trip Average Fuel: 0.00 MPG
ECM Run Time: 16339640.00 sec
Engine Run Time: 16113192.00 sec
Powerup Counts: 226
Trip Data Invalid (Powertrain Error): No
Trip Time Overflow: No
Trip Fuel Overflow: No
Trip Idle Fuel Overflow: No
Trip Idle Time Overflow: No
Total Data Invalid (Powerdown Error): No
Total Time Overflow: No
Total Fuel Overflow: No
Total Idle Fuel Overflow: No
Total Idle Time Overflow: No
Cruise Indicators:
S/C Cruise Indicator Lamp: Off
S/C Switch 1 Status: None - no switches pressed
S/C Switch 2 Status: 48RE Cooler Bypass Kit: Installed
SCI Algorithm Enables - PTO Enable: No
SCI Algorithm Enables - 48RE Cooler Bypass Kit E: No
In Use Ratio Abort Condition: Not set
Switch MIL Information:
MIL: On
Keyswitch Status: On
Lift Pump Driver Feedback: Off
Brake switch 2: Off
PTO Switch: Off
Exhaust Brake Driver Feedback: On
AC Discrete Output Feedback: Off
Cold Start Aid 1 Driver Feedback: Off
Brake switch 1: Off
Exhaust Brake Switch: Off
Low Oil Switch: On
Clutch switch: Off
Trans Park Neutral Switch: On
Tow/Haul Switch: On
Trans VFS Battery Feedback: Off
Trans Overdrive Feedback: On
Trans Torque Converter Clutch Feedback: On
Throttle Valve Actuator Overcurrent Indication: Off
General Transmission Information:
Selected Gear: Park
Exhaust Brake Status: Off
Throttle Valve Actuator:
Throttle Valve Actuator Denied State: Complete
Throttle Valve Actuator Command State: Throttle
Duty Cycle Monitor Data: Time at %Load: 0 - 10%: 45.51 %
11 - 20%: 11.59 %
21 - 30%: 4.25 %
31 - 40%: 3.36 %
41 - 50%: 2.85 %
51 - 60%: 2.69 %
61 - 70%: 2.73 %
71 - 80%: 6.28 %
81 - 90%: 0.22 %
91 - 100%: 0.76 %
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Reading faults for: Diesel Cummins I6
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Faults reported:

19/06/2024 19:01:01
Faults found.
P0973
P2769
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Error code: P2769
Torque Converter Clutch Circuit Low
Test complete or not applicable
Error temporary
Error warning lamp not requested

Error code: P0973
Overdrive Control Circuit Low
Test complete or not applicable
Error temporary
Error warning lamp not requested

Error code: P2769
Torque Converter Clutch Circuit Low
Test complete or not applicable
Error temporary
Error warning lamp not requested

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Reading faults for: Diesel Cummins I6
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Faults reported:

20/06/2024 13:52:29
Faults found.
P0973
P2769
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ORC module


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Reading faults for: Occupant restraints module (airbag)
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Faults reported:

20/06/2024 13:44:44
Faults found.
B210D
B1206
U0154
B1BB5
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HVAC module

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Reading faults for: HVAC (Heat, Ventillation and Air Conditioner)
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Faults reported:

20/06/2024 13:51:11
Faults found.
U3F00
P0003
C1235
P3035
P3536
C0143
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[monkeh]

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Further proof is identified as a Fiat 500!

Appcar doesn't let me go further than this. It won't connect to any modules.

Alfa does, but with limited functionality.

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[AK Bob]

IMG_20240619_183333_869.jpg

Further proof is identified as a Fiat 500!

Appcar doesn't let me go further than this. It won't connect to any modules.

Alfa does, but with limited functionality.

Wow!

Just finished reading this thread, and it’s a lot.

I would suspect that the initial low voltage condition took out the TIPM.

On your 2006, the TIPM is the central gateway and body control module.

I would replace the TIPM.

See information in this thread also.

https://www.igotacummins.com/threads...ror-Code-18504

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[monkeh]

I suspected it may have fried it, but this is a learning curve to me!

Thanks.

Yeah, it's a lot.

Checking the other thread, the tuner can communicate with the ECM for the PC faults.

I daren't apply a tune to test it, but after reverting it to stock, I'm guessing it communicates OK via OBD.

I've got a TIPM on order and should be with me by Wednesday.

I don't know how or why a low voltage would fry it, though?

I suspect the faulty solenoid may have kept the canbus awake because I could leave the truck for a few weeks sometimes without battery drain, I'd left it for 3 days, and it was down to 9.5v.

I'll keep you posted!

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[AK Bob]

I suspected it may have fried it, but this is a learning curve to me!

Thanks.

Yeah, it's a lot.

Checking the other thread, the tuner can communicate with the ECM for the PC faults.

I daren't apply a tune to test it, but after reverting it to stock, I'm guessing it communicates OK via OBD.

I've got a TIPM on order and should be with me by Wednesday.

I don't know how or why a low voltage would fry it, though?

I suspect the faulty solenoid may have kept the canbus awake because I could leave the truck for a few weeks sometimes without battery drain, I'd left it for 3 days, and it was down to 9.5v.

I'll keep you posted!

See link below for some useful tips when replacing your TIPM.

https://tipmrebuilders.com/new-and-i...or-hard-reset/

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[monkeh]

Thanks. I tried the "reset" procedure. From 30 minutes to the full week while I charged the batteries.

Took the tipm out to check all connectors, dismantled it to check for ingress.

I've been getting intimate with the wiring the past few months trying to get on top of this!

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[monkeh]

Update: Arrived home from work this evening to a delivery from Rockauto, one TIPM.

Installed, and now the truck sees its identity!

It's no longer a Fiat 500.

All codes cleared, and Appcar can scan all modules without issues.

A few grey codes cleared, and the 2 transmission codes are also gone.

They wouldn't clear before.

I am hoping it's not the drive cycle triggered.

I couldn't start the truck because it would wake everyone up! I will find out tomorrow if my transmission issue is sorted, too.

The result to its lost ID, the 4wd light is lit though, all other alarm lights on the dash were gone and it remembered its config.

Things are looking promising.

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[AK Bob]

Update: Arrived home from work this evening to a delivery from Rockauto, one TIPM.

Installed, and now the truck sees its identity!

It's no longer a Fiat 500.

All codes cleared, and Appcar can scan all modules without issues.

A few grey codes cleared, and the 2 transmission codes are also gone.

They wouldn't clear before.

I am hoping it's not the drive cycle triggered.

I couldn't start the truck because it would wake everyone up! I will find out tomorrow if my transmission issue is sorted, too.

The result to its lost ID, the 4wd light is lit though, all other alarm lights on the dash were gone and it remembered its config.

Things are looking promising.

Thanks for the update.

Sounds like you are well on your way to being fixed.

Please keep us posted.

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